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Title
Letter
to
John
Newton
Post Date
May 14, 1765
Author
Wesley
,
John
,
1703-1791
Recipient
Newton
,
John
,
1725-1807
Date
1765-05-14
Physical Description
4
pgs
total
;
3
pgs
text
;
1
pg
address
Dimensions
23
x
37
cm
Address From
Londonderry
Country From
Ireland
Collection (Provenance)
Leete
Manuscript
Collection
Transcriber
Wanda
Smith
Plain Text Transcription
To The
Revd
Mr
Newton
At
Mr
Clunies
Harp-Lane
Thames-street
London
Londonderry
May
14
,
1765
Dear
sir
Your
manner
of
writing
needs
no
excuse
.
I
hope
you
will
always
write
in the
same
manner
.
Love
is
the
plainest
thing
in
(the)
world
.
I
know
this
dictates
what
you
write
. And then what
need
of
ceremo(ny?)
You
have
admirably
well
expressed
what
I
mean
by an
opinion
contradistinguished
from an
essential
doctrine
.
Whatever
is
“compatible
with a
love
to
Christ
and a
work
of
grace”
I
term
an
opinion
. And
certainly
the
holding
particular
election
and
final
perseverance
is
compatible
with these.
“Yet
what
fundamental
error”
(you
ask)
“have
you
opposed
with
half
that
frequency
and
vehemence
as
you
have these
opinions”
?
So
doubtless
you
have
heard
. But
it
is
not
true
.
I
have
printed
near
fifty
sermons
, and
only
one
of these
opposes
them at
all
.
I
preach
about
eight
hundred
sermons
in a
year
. And
taking
one
year
with
another
, for
twenty
years
past
,
I
have not
preached
eight
times
sermons
in
(a
ye)ar
upon
the
subject
. But
“how
many
of
your
best
preachers
have been
thru(st
out)
because
they
dissented
from
you
in these
particulars”
? Not
one
,
best
or
worst
,
good
or
bad
, was
ever
thrust
out
on this
account
. There has been
no(t
a)
single
instance
of the
kind
.
Two
of or
three
(but
far
from the
best
of
our
pre(ach)ers)
voluntarily
left
us
after
they had
embraced
those
opinions
. But
it
(was)
of their
own
mere
motion
. And
two
I
should have
expelled
for
immoral
(be)haviour
, but they
withdrew
and
pretended
,
“They
did
not
hold
our
doct(rine.”)
Set
a
mark
,
therefore
, on him
who
told
you
that
tale
, and
let
his
word
for the
(future)
go
for
nothing
.
“Is
a
man
a
believer
in
Jesus
Christ?”
and
“is
his
life
suitable
to his
(profes)sion?”
are not
only
the
main
but the
sole
enquiries
I
make
in
order
to his
(ad)mission
into
our
Society
. If he
is
a
Dissenter
, he
may
be a
Dissenter
still
.
(But)
if he
is
a
Churchman
,
I
advise
him to
continue
so
, and that for
many
rea(sons,)
some
of
which
are
mentioned
in the
tract
upon
that
subject
.
When
you
have
read
what
I
have
wrote
on
occasion
of the
Letters
late(ly)
published
,
I
may
say
something
more
on that
head
. And
it
will then be
t(ime)
enough
to
show
you
why
some
part
of those
Letters
could
not be
wrote
by
M(r)
Hervey
.
I
think
on
justification
just
as
I
have
done
any
time
these
seven
and
twenty
years
, and
just
as
Mr
Calvin
does
. In this
respect
I
do
not
differ
from him an
hair’s
breadth
. But the
main
point
between
you
and
me
is
perfection
.
“This
,
you
say
, has
no
(prev)alence
in these
parts
.
Otherwise
I
should
think
it
my
duty
to
oppose
it
with
my
(who)le
strength
, not as an
opinion
, but as a
dangerous
mistake
,
which
appears
to be
(subv)ersive
of the
very
foundations
of
Christian
experience
and
which
has in
fact
given
(occ)asion
to the
most
grievous
offences.”
Just
so
my
brother
and
I
reasoned
thirty
years
ago
.
“We
think
it
our
duty
(to
op)pose
predestination
with
our
whole
strength
. Not as an
opinion
, but as a
dangerous
mistake
,
which
appears
to be
subversive
of the
very
foundations
of
Christian
experience
and
which
has in
fact
given
occasion
to the
most
grievous
offences.”
That
it
has
given
occasion
to
such
offences
,
I
know
.
I
can
name
time
,
place
and
persons
. But
still
another
fact
stares
me
in the
face
.
Mr
Haweis
and
Mr
Newton
hold
this, and
yet
I
believe
these have
real
Christian
experience
. But if
so
, this
is
only
an
opinion
.
It
is
not
subversive
(here
is
clear
proof
to the
contrary)
of the
very
foundations
of
Christian
experience
.
It
is
“compatible
with a
love
to
Christ
and a
genuine
work
of
grace.”
Yea
,
many
hold
it
at
whose
feet
I
desire
to be
found
in the
day
of the
Lord
Jesus
. If, then,
I
“oppose
this with
my
whole
strength,”
I
am
a
mere
bigot
still
.
I
leave
(yo)u
in
your
calm
and
retired
moments
to
make
the
application
. But how
came
this
opinion
into
my
mind
?
I
will
tell
you
with
all
simplicity
.
(In)
1725
I
met
with
Bishop
Taylor’s
Rules
of
Holy
Living
and
Dying
.
I
was
struck
parti(cu)larly
with the
chapter
upon
Intention
and
felt
a
fixed
intention
to
give
myself
(up
to)
God
. In this
I
was
much
confirmed
soon
after
by the
Christian
Pattern
and
longed
to
give
(God)
all
my
heart
. This
is
just
what
I
mean
by
perfection
now
.
I
sought
(after)
it
from that
hour
. In
1727
I
read
Mr
Law’s
Christian
Perfection
and
Serious
Call
and
more
expli(citly
res)olved
to be
all
devoted
to
God
, in
body
,
soul
and
spirit
.
(In
173)0
I
began
to be
homo
unius
libri
; to
study
(comparatively)
no
(book)
but the
Bible
.
I
then
saw
in a
stronger
light
than
ever
before
that
only
(one
t)hing
is
needful
,
even
faith
that
worketh
by the
love
of
God
and
man
,
all
(inw)ard
and
outward
holiness
. And
I
groaned
to
love
God
with
all
my
heart
and
(to
ser)ve
him with
all
my
strength
.
January
1
,
1733
,
I
preached
the
sermon
of on the
“Circumcision
of the
Heart”
which
(co)ntains
all
that
I
now
teach
concerning
salvation
from
all
sin
and
loving
God
with an
undivided
heart
. In the
same
year
I
printed
(the
first
time
I
ventured
to
print
any
thing)
for the
use
of
my
pupils
a
“Collection
of
Forms
of
Prayer.”
And in this
I
spoke
explicitly
of
giving
the
whole
heart
and the
whole
life
to
God
. This was then, as
it
is
now
,
my
idea
of
perfection
,
though
I
should have
started
at the
word
. In
1735
I
preached
my
farewell
sermon
at
Epworth
in
Lincoln(shire.)
In this
likewise
I
spoke
with the
utmost
clearness
of
having
one
design
,
(one)
desire
,
one
love
, and of
pursuing
the
one
end
of
our
life
in
all
our
word(s
and)
act(ions)
. In
January
1738
I
exprest
my
desire
in those
words
:
O
grant
that
nothing
in
my
soul
May
dwell
but
thy
pure
love
alone
!
O
may
thy
love
possess
me
whole
,
My
joy
,
my
treasure
, and
my
crown
.
Strange
flames
far
from
my
heart
remove
!
My
every
act
,
word
,
thought
be
love
. And
I
am
still
persuaded
this
is
what the
Lord
Jesus
hath
bought
for
me
with his
ow(n
blood.)
Now
whether
you
desire
and
expect
this
blessing
or not
(is
it)not
an
astonishing
thing
that
you
or any
man
living
should be
di(sturbed)
at
me
for
expecting
it
?
Is
it
not
more
astonishing
still
that
well
(nigh)
all
the
religious
world
should be
up
in
arms
concerning
it
? And that they should
persuade
one
another
that this
hope
is
“subversive
of the
very
foundations
of
Christian
experience”
?
Why
then
whoever
re(ceives
it)
cannot
possibly
have any
Christian
experience
at
all
! Then
my
brother
,
Mr
Fletcher
and
I
and
twenty
thousand
more
who
seem
both
to
fear
(and
love
God)
are in
reality
children
of the
devil
and in the
road
to
eternal
damna(tion.)
In
God’s
name
,
I
intreat
you
,
make
me
sensible
of
th(is
.
Show)
me
by
plain
,
strong
reasons
, what
dishonour
this
hope
do(es
to
Christ)
wherein
it
opposes
justification
by
faith
or any
fundment(al
truth)
of
religion
. But
do
not
wrest
and
wiredraw
and
colour
my
words
as
Mr
Hervey
(or
Cudworth)
has
done
in
such
a
manner
that
wh(en
I)
look
in that
glass
I
do
not
know
my
own
face
!
“Shall
I
call
yo(u”
(says)
Mr
Hervey)
“my
father
or
my
friend
? For
you
have been
both
to
me.”
(So)
I
was. And
you
have as
well
requited
me
!
It
is
well
my
reward
(is)
with the
most
High
.
Wishing
all
happiness
to
you
and
yours
,
I
am
,
dear
sir
,
Your
affectionate
brother
and
servant
John
Wesley
Published Transcription
John
Telford
,
ed
. The
Letters
of the
Rev
.
John
Wesley
,
IV
.
January
16
,
1758
, to
February
28
,
1766
.
(London
:
Epworth
Press
,
1931)
,
pp
.
297-300
.
Catalog link
http://libcat.smu.edu/vwebv/holdingsInfo?bibId=195734
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